Jeremy Hogan
Every Crypto Lover, every Ripple Enthusiast, every XRP Investor/ Holder is looking at the Lawsuit of the Century:
the SEC vs. Ripple
Maybe not every Crypto Lover, but all XRP investors are definitely following all the moves made by all the lawyers that are working at the moment to get Ripple / XRP / Crypto in the clear.
As you know, I have been in this space since 2017, allegations, had been made before, other coin maxis always eyed the “alleged” security and finally, in December 2020 it was the Securities and Exchange Commission that filed a complaint …. warned by Brad Garlinghouse himself:
As of December 2020, it has been a wild ride for Ripple and the XRP Investor / Holder. Suddenly everybody was a lawyer, everybody knew what was happening and NOT happening, interesting to see ! ! !
New people showed up and one of them is Jeremy Hogan. I was not aware of him and many people did not know him, but I can say I have seen all of his videos that he published regarding the SEC vs. Ripple …….. and so have a lot of people; his videos are viewed a lot. He gets a lot of support on Twitter and I believe he should ! ! !
Legal things are NOT easy but can be made easier ….. Jeremy Hogan ! ! !
His name popped up more than once, so I want to know more, others want to know more, ....., I ....., I ....., I ..... , I
I wanted to interview Jeremy and so I asked him on Twitter to follow me in order to ask him that question:
and that got the ball rolling ! ! !
If you have seen his YouTube Videos, if you have asked him a question on Twitter and he answered, then you know it, and I KNOW it, Mr. Hogan .... Jeremy is very kind and is here to help us out with all the 10 dollar words shared by lawyers, judges and others that are “in the know” of the SEC vs. Ripple case.
So the big question is, WHO is Jeremy Hogan ? ? ?
XRPTwin:
Can you tell me about yourself, who is Jeremy Hogan ? ? ?
Jeremy Hogan:
I was born in Ohio but grew up on the island of Guam with some time in Hawaii, Japan, and California before settling in Florida. I opened my own law practice in 2006 with my wife and we have two beautiful girls so nowadays I am mostly “Dad.”
XRPTwin:
Got married on Hawaii, amazing islands, will go back some day ....
XRPTwin:
Your history with Crypto Currency and XRP specifically, did this digital asset became more attractive to you when the SEC showed its face?
Jeremy Hogan:
I got into the crypto world only about 2 years ago and my interest was in smart contracts and how they could be used in the insurance world.
I knew what XRP was but didn’t really look into it until after the lawsuit was filed.
After researching its uses and seeing how the price had been destroyed by the lawsuit, I thought that XRP was a “no-brainer” purchase and that was primarily due to the lawsuit.
XRPTwin:
Social Media has served you well. YouTube – Legal Briefs – shows over 60.000 Subscribers, almost every video viewed over 100K, coming from a much lower level of engagement. Twitter over 25.000 Followers. Where do you think this public interest is coming from?
Source
Jeremy Hogan:
After the lawsuit I felt there was a lot of confusion and fear in the XRPCommunity. After my first video on the Ripple lawsuit, I quickly realised the XRP community was starved for information presented in a clear and easily digestible way.
XRPTwin:
I hope you will not hold this against me, but I have heard your name mentioned with the name of Judge Judy, definitely a successful lady .... How do you see this yourself?
Jeremy Hogan:
If I could make half as much money as she does… 😊
XRPTwin:
for the reader so you don't have to look it up:
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XRPTwin:
If you are not busy with your job, the YouTube hobby, what do you do during your spare time, what are you hobbies ?
Jeremy Hogan:
If I am not working I am with my family. My only selfish pleasure is watching the Orlando soccer team play. Actually, I think we had a friendly game against Ajax a couple years ago and I was there!
XRPTwin:
nothing wrong with Ajax, they are having a good season this year ! !
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XRPTwin:
If you look at all the different stages, where do you think “mistakes” have been made:
The SEC going after Ripple, Brad and Chris?
Ripple's SEC answer?
Ripple's question to dismiss the case?
The SEC asking to dismiss the Ripple dismissal?
Jeremy Hogan:
The SEC going after Ripple, Brad and Chris?
I think including Brad and Chris in the lawsuit was a mistake. The lawsuits against the individuals are much more difficult and screams “overreach” on its part. I think those lawsuits are dismissed or not successful at some point.
Ripple's SEC answer?
I think Ripple HAD to answer the lawsuit in order to move it forward quicker. Ripple can’t let this lawsuit linger and that forced their hand, which is never a good position to be in when it comes to litigation. I don’t think it was necessarily a mistake, but it’s NOT a good position to be in.
Ripple's question to dismiss the case?
I think only Brad and Chris moved to dismiss the case and that was absolutely the right move. I think the cases SHOULD be dismissed.
The SEC asking to dismiss the Ripple dismissal?
I think the SEC wants to stop Ripple from obtaining certain documents and communications so it had to ask that one of Ripple’s affirmative defenses be removed from the case. I think the SEC made some concessions in the motion that could hurt them later so yes, I think the SEC made some mistakes in that filing.
XRPTwin:
At this moment there are between 1.000 / 100.000 lawyers judging the SEC / Ripple case from the sideline (the XRPCommunity); does this help or damage the case looking at Ripple's (XRP) point of view?
Jeremy Hogan:
I don’t think the SEC attorneys or Ripple lawyers give too much heed to what the sideline lawyers are talking about – although we maybe like to think they do. The sideline attorneys don’t know ALL that is going on. Half of what I do is guesswork! So, I don’t think it matters too much what we say or think to be honest.
XRPTwin:
A question that is playing with everybody's mind, how long is this case going to be dragged, how long is this going to last?
Jeremy Hogan:
Yes, the XRP community and crypto investors are very impatient! This case is moving very very quickly by lawsuit standards. I had a recent case take 3 years to get to trial. The main and important parts of this case should be resolved by this late fall/early winter. IF there are appeals, that would add an extra year or so to get an appellate decision.
XRPTwin:
Is this case all about Ripple / XRP clearance, or should the whole market look at this case as it will also determine their future?
Jeremy Hogan:
This case is about much more than Ripple. If the SEC is successful, the case precedent would leave almost every coin out there vulnerable to being essentially destroyed/delisted/damaged at the whim of the SEC. I think you would see an exodus of the industry to safer shores (like maybe Netherlands?!)
XRPTwin:
The quick round: Can you respond to the following words:
Jay Clayton ? ? ?
Fair Notice and Due Process ? ? ?
John Deaton ? ? ?
Gary Gensler ? ? ?
Regulatory Clarity ? ? ?
Jeremy Hogan:
Jay Clayton ? ? ?
No comment. 😊
Fair Notice and Due Process?
The 5th Amendment holds a dear place in my heart and that’s where Fair Notice/Due Process stems from. You SHOULD not be subject to civil or criminal prosecution by the government unless it is CLEAR that what you are doing is violating the law. To me, that is a fundamental constitutional right and THAT is at play here.
John Deaton ? ? ?
I have great respect for what he’s doing. You have no idea how much work he has taken on.
Gary Gensler ? ? ?
So far, disappointed. Maybe he’ll surprise me.
Regulatory Clarity ? ? ?
This is a do or die for the USA.
XRPTwin:
For the SEC to win, this has to happen: ........ ?
Jeremy Hogan:
The SEC has to convince the Court that Ripple made essentially one long sale/offering of XRP and focus the Court down on early sales. The SEC has to simplify that whole case and get the Court to believe that most people were looking primarily to Ripple to increase the value of XRP.
XRPTwin:
For Ripple to win, this has to happen: ........?
Jeremy Hogan:
Ripple has to make the case complicated, meaning Ripple has to make the Court understand that each sale was different and at the time of each sale the use cases had expanded and XRP had become more decentralised.
XRPTwin:
I did a poll asking people if Jake Chervinski should be a guest on Legal Briefs to have a nice discussion with you on the SEC vs. Ripple case. 76% answered with an ABSOLUTE YES, Jake is positive, so are you open to have a discussion ? ? ?
I know, I know only 356 Votes, but when this happens ..... WHEN THIS HAPPENS ! ! !
Actually, maybe better to bring it over to the On The Chain YouTube Channel to keep it neutral. Chip and Jeff, On The Chain hosts, agreed to it. Maybe, to make it complete we should ask John Deaton to be part of it also . He has been on that show before.
Jeremy Hogan:
I would look forward to that. I’m a little swamped right now but maybe in a week or two!
XRPTwin:
Well, let me talk to individual parties and let's see where this goes, would be awesome :–)
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Meanwhile, the case went on and the Honourable Magistrate Judge Sarah Netburn of the Southern District Court in New York. This of course needs to be part of the Interview, so I politely asked Jeremy to answer one more question ..... and once again, as nice as he is, this was the outcome:
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XRPTwin:
What did you think about the hearing with the Honourable Magistrate Judge Sarah Netburn last week?
Jeremy Hogan:
I think the hearing went obviously very well for the individual defendants. And also for Ripple based on the judge’s comments that her understanding is that XRP is a currency and has utility. But that doesn’t necessarily mean “case over.” If this was a horse race, we are only in the first turn. A lot of bad things can still happen but it certainly made me feel better about how our horse is running!
Now, you tell me what horse Attorney Solomon is racing with ;–)
Knowing Jeremy has his own business, cases, I would like to thank him tremendously for the time he gave me by answering this question. I would like to ask him, writing this paragraph, to re-visit the court case in a couple weeks to see what has changed and where it is going .....
For now let's wait and see where the case moves and it answers the questions we have been waiting for. Once again, thank you and till the next interview ....... hopefully :–)
STAY SAFE ! ! !